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Para MUY tecnicos en Nissan 200SX! es una discusión de Mecánica, categoría de Zona Técnica; Aunque tengo muchos conceptos sobre este coche, quiero aclararlos porque las posibilidades que tiene este modelo no las he visto en muchos coches, quizás en Impreza y Evo <img ...


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Old 06-jun-2003, 17:55   #1 (permalink)
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Para MUY tecnicos en Nissan 200SX!


Aunque tengo muchos conceptos sobre este coche, quiero aclararlos porque las posibilidades que tiene este modelo no las he visto en muchos coches, quizás en Impreza y Evo <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

El caso es que quiero distinguir todas las versiones que haya del Nissan 200SX pero solo el motor 2.0 Turbo, no el anterior. ¿me podeis explicar los modelos que sacaron? y las siguientes terminologías...

SILVIA = 200SX? ¿donde se le conoce asi? ¿es el mismo?
SR20DE Y SR20DET, NISSAN 240SX ¿motor?
200SX = AUTOBLOCANTE?
200SX ¿QUE TURBO LLEVA? ¿POSIBILIDADES?

Gracias, a ver si me "descubris" un poco más este coche, no hablo de buscar en internet y pegar, eso ya lo se hacer yo <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> luego pondré unas fotos preciosas de este modelo.

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Old 06-jun-2003, 18:00   #2 (permalink)
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Silvia es la denominacion japonesa del 200SX y sus sucesores (que naturalmente aqui al norte de Africa no han llegado), creo que en EEUU tambien se le llama asi.

El motor SR20DE es el mismo que el SR20DET pero sin turbo, creo que lo montaban los Sunny Gti antaño maricastaño.

Autoblocante, ni flowers, que te cuente Def, me da que no.

Y el turbo creo que es un Garret T3... me equivoco?

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Old 06-jun-2003, 18:02   #3 (permalink)
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FIJATE QUE EN MECAMNICA PUSE UN PSOT CON LAS DIFERENCIA ENTRE EL SR20DE Y SR20DET QUE LA VERDAD SON MUCHAS VAS A TENER QUE BUSCAR PARA ATRAS


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Old 06-jun-2003, 18:04   #4 (permalink)
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joder, gracias tios, voy a buscar ese post.

El autoblocante me da que si, pero s eme hace raro que lo lleve, a ver si lo aclaramos...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Tengo unas fotos preciosas de él, ya las vereis y unos kit de potencia impresionantes....ufff!! k de posibilidades tiene.

un T3 entonces? <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle> joe, voy a ver si lo confirmamos...

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Old 07-jun-2003, 19:45   #5 (permalink)
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El Silvia es el nombre japones y el modelo se les llamo S15 (actual), S14,S13...

Este es el Silvia S15 del 2001


Este es el Silvia S14 del 97


Este es el S13 del 92


Este es un S12 del 88


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Old 07-jun-2003, 19:49   #6 (permalink)
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aca tenes una comparacion de el sr20det contra el vg30dett



While the SR is ultimately more powerful, the VG has a LOT more power in the RPM ranges a street engine lives 90% of its life at - 2000-4000rpm. This is where street car use vs track car use becomes a pretty significant factor. If you"re mainly racing, the SR would be the way to go as above 4600rpm they are nearly identical and the SR is a much lighter engine. For a street car the choice (if physical engine SIZE isn"t a limiting factor) it"s tougher. The SR will probably in the MPG battle, so in some cases it"s a "have your cake and eat it" engine. But if cut and thrust is your game, or if our car is over 2500lbs or so, the VG just might be the better bet.



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Silvia S13

The Silvia 13 appeared in 1988 to immediate acclaim. Styling was the main reason, as a handsome coupe body was something new at the time. The drive quality was the next factor, with its rear wheel drive providing a light and sporty drive. The engine was initially a 1.8-liter CA18, but this was replaced mid-model by a 2.0-liter inline 4-cylinder DOHC SR20. The top-of-the-range K"s was equipped with a turbocharged SR20 that produced 172 hp and 166 lb ft, while the Q"s / J"s featured an NA SR20DE delivering 133 hp / 118 lb ft. Its relatively light weight of 2,470 lb (K"s) and the 172 hp engine combined to give a pleasurable sensation of acceleration, and sporty drive. Also its light steering and nimble handling meant that anyone could easily enjoy driving it. It is probably the ideal car for beginners.

240SX Fastback

180 SX

The 180 SX made its debut as the hachback version of the S13 Silvia, and was strengthened by a string of modifications until 1995 when it underwent wholesale alterations. Its basic mechanical features remained unchanged, but its styling was refashioned along more sporty lines. The front was given a new spoiler, the side-step reinforced, the rear lamps rounded, and a rear spoiler added. The top-of-the-range Type-X and the next-level-down Type R featured the turbocharged SR20DET developing 202 hp and 203 lb ft. The basic-grade Type-S runs off an NA SR20DE engine producing 138 hp and 132 lb ft. The tail control generated by the axle work is pleasure unique to rear-wheel-drive cars. It is not a car that can depend on pure brute force, so half of the fun is using one"s driving skills to get the most out of it.

Silvia S14

The S14 was launched in 1993 and in 1996 was given a make over which swept aside the staid styling for a more aggressive feel. It uses the 2.0-liter inline 4-cylinder DOHC NA SR20DE engine, and its turbo version, the SR20DET. The NA version is fitted to the J"s and Q"s and delivers 157 hp and 138 ft lb, while the turbo gives 216 hp and 203 lb ft to the top-of-the-range K"s. For drive quality the K"s is the pick of the bunch, and while the NA Q"s is well-balanced, it seems a bit short on power for a car of its class. In terms of performance both models compare well with their rivals, but the potential of the suspension and chassis is not quite up to scratch and their sportiness is patchy. Nonetheless they still receive a lot of support.

Silvia Spec-R

S15 Silvia Spec R

The S15 Silvia"s chassis performance is vastly improved over previous models. The best-selling version is the turbocharged Spec R, showing just how strong driver preference for sports model is.

The Spec R"s SR20DET engine generates a maximum power of 247 hp -- almost 30 hp higher than the S14. But, more importantly, the Spec R does this without sacrificing mid-range torque characteristics. For a turbo-engined car, the SR20DET provides excellent throttle control response at partial throttle, letting the driver take the Spec R"s front engine/rear drive performance to its limits. Cornering control is also superb. While a high-rpm unit may show faster acceleration and top speed, a car like the Spec R is actually faster in the most-commonly used speed range. At 2,750 lbs, curb weight is light for a modern car of this size. The 6-speed manual transmission"s gear shifting is just right: fast and easy, with the perfect balance between sportiness and daily driveability.

Since the S14, weight distribution has been changed, while handling has been improved considerably by such upgrades as a Torsen limited-slip differential. The Super HICAS steering system -- available only with the manual-transmission Spec R -- is another step in the car"s natural evolution from the S14, ensuring both high-speed stability and satisfying maneuverability. Only the tires are unchanged from the S14. Different tires -- an easy modification -- should improve performance significantly.

Nevertheless, the S15 Silvia"s chassis is appropriate for a front engine/rear drive production sports car, and is well-matched to the engine.

This model change can be considered a huge success, for it abandoned the line"s vague, specialty car status in favor of an all-out sports model approach.

SR20DET Engines

"Red Top"
- S13 Motor / Early Model 180SX Motor
- 205 hp @ 6,000
- 203 ft lbs @ 4,000
- T25 Turbo
- Called a red-top because of its deep red valve cover

"Black Top (S13)"
- Late Model 180SX Motor
- 205 hp @ 6,000
- 203 ft lbs @ 4,000
- T25 Turbo
- Same thing as a Red-Top but newer and has a black valve cover

"Notch Top / S14 SR / Black Top"
- S14 Motor
- 220 hp @ 6,000
- 203 ft lbs @ 4,800
- T28 Ball Bearing Turbo
- Called a notch top because of the variable valve timing bulge of valve cover, valve cover is also black

"S15 Motor"
- S15 Motor
- 250 hp @ 6,000
- T28 Ball Bearing Turbo
- 6-speed transmission
- Larger injectors and different turbine setup

"GTi-R Motor"
- Sunny GTi-R Motor
- 227 hp
- Garrett T28
- Individual Throttle Bodies
- AWD Layout... meaning its FWD when swapped

Various Info

Stock Fuel Injectors: 370cc (Side-Feed)
Recommended Boost Controllers: GReddy Profec-B, Blitz Dual Solenoid ID series


SR20DET vs. SR20DE

The DET has:
-oil squirter piston coolers
-bigger oil pump
-different front pulley
-lower compression pistons (8.3:1 vs 9.5:1)
-bigger injectors
-direct ignition
-variable intake cam
-mechnical shim in bucket type lifters w/ slightly larger exhaust cam duration

The GTi-R has:
-individual throttle body injection
-stronger main cap bolts
-stronger rods




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Old 07-jun-2003, 22:28   #8 (permalink)
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Si si el silvia es un coche muy potenciable y con un mercado muy amplio en cuanto a ofertas y materiales se refiere.

Yo tengo el silvia s14 sr20det (black top) del 96, es parecido a este. Este es el nismo 270r, 270 cv.


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Old 08-jun-2003, 14:39   #9 (permalink)
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Soldado, confirmado por Def, lleva un T28 melonazo, mas kiseras ke fuese un T<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>, x cierto, ayer me dieron una vuelta<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>, juan....<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> en el S14, ya te contare<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>



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por lo menos no es el T25 <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> gracias a todos, me ha venido de lujo esta información.

Sax me tienes que contar si convence o no, de primera mano<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Old 08-jun-2003, 14:56   #11 (permalink)
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La verdad, me esperaba otra cosa, me sorprendio y me gusto, abre el msn ya!!!





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Old 08-jun-2003, 15:00   #12 (permalink)
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tengo el msn abierto hace rato
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Old 08-jun-2003, 15:03   #13 (permalink)
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UNAS FOTILLOS!!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>









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Old 08-jun-2003, 15:25   #14 (permalink)
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Mirate estas paginas:

www.200sx.org
www.nissansilvia.com
www.sr20deforum.com

Encontraras mucha informacion tecnica y consejos de como potenciar tu s14.

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Old 08-jun-2003, 16:44   #15 (permalink)
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Este es el ke necesitas...

http://www.importracer.com.ar/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18533


Un frontal para mi gusto mas feo:


Y el ke me gusta:






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